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. a pair of esteemed washington writers, jonathan capehart and dana milbank, political columnist. welcome to both of you. if i can start with you,ç jonathan, paul ryan and marco rubio spoke to a group of conservatives last night. they talked about helping the poor get into the middle class. in fact, i think we have a shot of paul ryan helping the poor. yes, there he is, in a soup kitchen during a campaign photo op. as we know, it was all just talk. when are we going to start hearing substance from these men or any republicans, for that matter? >> paul ryan would say he's been talking substance for a long time on these issues. it's just that we don't like what he's saying. we don't like his prescriptions for how he would help the poor. personally, i think paul ryan -- >> how does it help the poor by stripping meals on wheels, remove pell grants, how does that help the poor? >> that's a question for congressman ryan. i'm telling you from his mindset, his perspective, one way to help people and the economy is to ensure the country is on sound financial fiscal footing. the way he wants to g
with ted cruz and the gop. here in the studio is dana milbank. he writes about the gop and it is urge to purge. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. >> good to be with you, reverend. >> thank you. >> molly, it seems like denial to me. why don't they just admit that it's about their popular policies? >> well, i think you have a lot of different voices in the republican party saying different things. but there definitely is this group of far right conservatives who you can call it denial or just sincerely do not believe that the policies are the problems, that that's what has to change. other moderate voices saying we do have to adapt some different policies but they are saying, no, we lost this election because we didn't talk enough about abortion because we didn't embrace george wo. bush enough. we were afraid to attack him. and ted cruz was speaking at the speech that i attended last night, that we need to adopt a friendlier tone, particularly with respect to the hispanics. there are a lot of people saying, they are going to get what they asked for. the country is in declin
. the question may now be when, not if, the republicans will cave on taxes. joining me now is dana milbank, columnist for "the washington post." he's writing about the republicans waving tax hikes and cynthia tucker and visiting professor of journalism at the university of georgia. thanks to both of you for being here tonight. >> hi, reverend. >> good to be here, reverend. >> dana, are republicans really ready to cave? >> well, reverend, first of all, terrific particular to see you and ann coulter on the same page. they've caved already. they have said, we're going to agree to an $800 billion tax increase. it's entirely possible that they are going to go off the cliff any way. it doesn't mean that a deal is imminent. it basically means that they surrender. they used to say that they wouldn't give a dime of tax increase for spending cuts. now they are saying, let's go and do it if we can get $3 of taxes for spending cuts. >> the choice may be down to, do they make the deal before the deadline or do they let it go over the cliff and then come back and vote the tax cuts for the medical class
? let's find out. dana milbank has the right attitude, and ron reagan, a good friend of mine, an msnbc political analyst. i have to let you at this first, ron reagan. every time i see "gone with the wind" the southern guys cheering, they can't wait to tame miss scarlet. we're going to have a war and it's going to be great. and then the horror of 600,000 people dead including the burning of atlanta. then everybody says this wasn't such a great idea. now they're talking like secession is a good idea begin. who are these maniacs? >> i'm sure all these people who are plumping for secession would call themselves patriots. >> of what country? >> real americans. >> well, good question here. so the way it works apparently is when democracy doesn't go your way, when you have an election and the other side wins, you throw the entire 200-plus years of the american experiment into the dumper. you have a little kind of hissy fit here. we've all about in groups of people where maybe eight, ten people and one of the people, one of the people in this group is character disordered. they're a real socio
ideas we can all support. >> dana, is any of that going to make a difference or maybe a broader point is how much are outside groups generally, whether it's on the hill or on tv influencing this debate? >> if it works as well as karl rove's effort during the campaign, i think the president is going to ask him to run more of those ads because it didn't work out so well for him the last time. this is a little different from a political campaign in that spending by interest groups is probably not going to be big enough to crowd out all of this noise that's being made here. i think that interview you just had with tom price was extraordinary for what he didn't say. he didn't say i won't allow taxes to increase. he said it depends on what the overall package is. that's an extraordinary admission is for one of the most conservative congressmen in the house and i think it shows where these guys are headed. >> when you look at the polls and you see how the messaging is working, susan, and to what we've been talking, about the pressure that these republicans feel, in fact there are even some d
in his second term." what kind of negotiating style are you referring to? >> like dana is saying, we're in the posturing stage of this right now. the president, for his proposal was a posture that says, i won. i won. i won. here's where i want to take things. and it started from a very left, liberal direction, stimulus money included. he knows republicans oppose that kind of spending. we assumed the final deal will include about $1 trillion in tax increases of some kind. so the president said i'm going to start with the idea of 1.6 trillion because that's where he's like trying to make the opening deal from the left. then the compromise will be around the 1 trillion, 1.2 trillion trillion 800 billion zone. in 2011 he and john boehner had a deficit deal on the table that a lot of democrats didn't like. right now he's gaining democratic support even more than at the campaign. this proposal democrats alike, there was a meeting on the hill about the proposal. democrats were delighted. you saw john boehner complaining about it. that's what the president wants because we're in the posturin
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